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Big Slacker
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:41:00 -
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My main char is part of a small indy corp and alliance.
We do like many other small indy corps, sitt in stations or play on our alts. Due to that we are at war agin... this time it's one corp and one alliance with over 300 pvp pilots killing all our pilots. Or I should say the once that are still in the corp, many has already left.
The score is about 5Bil ISK vs 0 ISK, over 200 ships vs 0 ships. Our "PVP-brigade" is 10 low SP pvp-pilots flying T1's friggs with very little experience of PvP. They are +40 ,both in SP's and experience, skilled T2 and T3 PVPers. And they are really skilled and organized.
So we are, like many others a defenseless indy corp at war or I should say at ransom-war agin... it's probably the 5th since January. They want our ISK's ... if we pay we got 10 more Ransom-corps lining-up to take even more ISK's from us. And when ever they want mor ISKs that just call us agin... and agin and agin..
It just sucks that's EvE have turned it to a *bully-game... It's not much to say, the game mechanics is set by the developers. It's just to re-roll "Ransom-pilot", play in NPC corp or don't post next check to CCP.
It's sucks because I liked to play indy char....
* Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others. |

Big Slacker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:34:00 -
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Hmm getting indy players to be smart, fast and organized PVPers... 10 of 10 hard... leave corp or play alt's 1 of 10... Don't agree with you that EvE has been a ugly bully-game from 2004...
Is it a success for the developers that the only way a small indy corp to survive is to beg (sing... or what ever " I bend for the bullys" activity) on my knees. Or all quit the corp, fleet-up as NPC corp players.... ??
Well sry dude don't see any attractive or even near fun solution. It's just to bend over and join the pvpers.... |

Big Slacker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.23 07:39:00 -
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Agree with you all! Their is a lot of good advice and probably the only way for us to survive we need adapt and change.
And thats just the problem. EvE is designed so PvPers have an edge. You don't need in any way todo any indy work as a PvPer. But as an indy player you need to pay others or PvP your self to protect the corp/alliance.
I would love to be able to use our indy SP's in PvP... The only way we can do that is to take our progress money and spend it on some one else's progress. Not ours!
We are few that lives in null already but to organize a null indy corp you need a lot, A LOT, more isk, players, time and organization then in high-sec. So what is a small indy corp lacking of??
And most of our players are pretty new and don't have the skills, ISK or will to go full life in null. And as a indy player you need to time op's, no good idea to mine alone in null.
So we tend to sit at POS... or we can go and hunt rats... but then I will need to change from indy-player to a fighter-player. And most of us are not done with our skill training within indy skills....
High-sec is new player friendly, null is not.
The main problem is not one or even four wardec's it's when we more or less are constantly at war due to that pvp corps like to ransom new/small defenseless corps. About 90% of the time we are at war.
So back to start... it's much more easy to just bend over and leave indy/mining and go to fighting and pvp. I can skill up and earn ISK doing missions, then hit null asap to belt hunt and get some really good ISK's..
Then start to pvp and have fun, lose ships, blow up ships at the time I play "my" game and develop both my SP's and my play skills. That's far from what a player in a regular indy corp does...
I'm bending over / Big Slacker
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Big Slacker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.04 20:07:00 -
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One day after last war ended we got a new wardec. Agin from a corp/alliance that try to ransom us.
CCP don't want small indy corp in the game... and still they are working like hell to get more ppl to do indy. Well just a hint CCP, ask how many customers dropping out or leaving indy due to "Bully- EvE" mechanics....
Time to cancel the account
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Big Slacker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.04 20:32:00 -
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Jill Chastot wrote: Although the traditional way of gathering resources exists, as of current it's really not the best way to go about it. Rat in an afktar or run lvl 4's a bit, isk => minerals => (stuff)
Well that's not fun enough to pay for! |

Big Slacker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:01:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:don't fly expensive ships under a war dec. don't do pve under a war dec unless you go to an out of the way place. i prefered (when i lived in high sec) doing exploration during war decs esp finding wh's or relic/data. I went on trips to low and day tripped in wormholes. sometimes i would get involved in fighting back and that was good. You need neutral scouts to check where they are and how many and then let a bait tanked ship fall into their trap and then spring your trap. If they are present in numbers just stay docked or cloaked until they go.
Do NOT pay ransoms to make them leave. Do NOT give them expensive kills. You will just get more sharks if you put blood like that in the water.
If they get no nice kills and no ransom they will move onto greener pastures. Also they won't tell their friends to dec you next week.
I live in null now and my alliance is fighting xxdeath + pets (the whole of geminate) they outnumber us 10 to 1 and drop more caps / BS onto tower fights than we can get people in fleet. (often 3 or 4 to 1) we enjoy the fights and usually win. It is doable to fight larger numbers but it needs experiance. I actually ended up in null because of a wardec. I was frustrated no one would fight and so i got my scout alt to join a pvp training corp. That scout is this char and is now my main. I couldn't go back to being a carebear now even though i have an indy alt that funds my pvp.
Good luck and mot of all find a way to have fun even in a war dec. If you have fun even if you kill nothing then you have already won.
I also live 100% in null and I think it sucks big time. But thats of no interest at all. High sec is today owned by Ransom and Bully corps/alliances and we can't be there because they control EvE. Thats the problem.
Longtime ago a mercc corp had in their bio "We will win EvE". And they are doing that, they won over me. I gave up and canceled my subscription. GG merc and bully's you won.
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